In one of your work, "It Has to Be Alone, It Has to Be Apart," you are asked, especially in the statement, "the moon is shining on the sea, we are heading to it, why is it not shinning on us." as "romanticizing as there are a lot of people are hurt and attacked". As I know it is a word that inspire you to participate in this interview. How do you think about it

It was heavy for me, at the time I hear about the word. The work is about how Hong Kong is changed to the extent that I can hardly recognize it, which is hopeless and helpless. Romanticizing to me is like assuming me not part of the group who was hurt and attacked as it clearly explained with "a lot of people are hurt and attacked" which made it romanticizing.

My first reaction is my role as an artist which is not just focused on making things and the questions have long imposed on Hong Kong artists since the protest. The artists are also split like the eyeball, who have split identity, making things does not imply not going to the street.

The second thing is I recorded and documented my observation of hidden stories in my own manner. I am not a painter and I am not painting any scenery of the protest. There are a lot of people better than myself in painting or taking photos. Why am I doing these?

But these answers are not helping me a lot with the heartbreaking feeling. Since then the memory about the protest keeps knocking my door. I felt I failed, as an artist, to defend myself, to grab the opportunity to explain what I should explain. (Is there something that should be explained?)

How does the metaphor of Moon light and boat come to your mind?

What are the things that keep finding you? and how does it affect you that may change your perspective about the moonlight?

Eye contact with the evil official in an art event and eye contact with a protester who came back to the tear gas after he picked up a gas mask left by someone on the ground. And all the other scenery.

This term is bothering me and I searched for it on the website. What appeared is news about the Police in Hong Kong who blamed protesters as romanticizing the protest. The Police has much as resources as it wants, while the press conference could spread whatever they want. The government and the police make use of it to smear protesters. Every day a session, audience who believes in it would then believe and turn hatred and blame towards the protesters like the police.

I soon feel that as an artist and citizen, who is reacting to the suppression by the power is under suppression, while on one hand, telling the story to the audience, there will be judgment. If it is a fishball, it is neither a fish mince nor a fish. If the moonlight statement is romanticizing, it is like blaming the people on the boat as romanticizing, like what the power did.

I was on a boat one week after I left Hong Kong. The moon is shining near the boat, at that moment, I imagined the moon will soon shine on us if we keep heading to it, but it's not.

Sometime after, I think Hong Kong people are also like the boat. We dunno why the moon is not shining on us. It is like no light on us, and a boat on the sea going nowhere-always rowing in darkness.

This is a question that came naturally as a metaphor, which is also what me and many other people feel. Why not the reality of a person situated that make her ask such a question which told her the cruelty of reality that the future is never gonna cast under such a moonlight but always rowing in a dark sea.

If we are like on the boat, is it the nature of political movement itself, that it has a sort of ideal for a better future, it is something accomplish by a group of people with a sense of togetherness and share a similar emotion, memory and wishes?